I tell you, that I would beat almost all average CSG players without using any csg 
poserā¦ just joking. 
1 Like
No Nostradamus,
thereās no way Iām going to do what Iām denouncing, which is doing a lot of harm to the remaining community.
The 1st system I saw, which was suggested to me by one of my guild members, dates back to 2009. He created this system. I never wanted to set foot in it for fear of losing all the many advantages that this game has to offer. This system was kept in a safe and in total secrecy.
All of you who post, think first of all of the major part (for the moment) of the community who ādecryā in silence, and who are gradually giving up, becoming discouraged, etc etc, think collectively and not personally, think of all those who ā¦
This Topic isnāt just a battle, itās a force for solutions, as indicated in this paragraph of my post.
My post is here so that players from the Shot-Online community can post constructive ideas in turn!
For example, creating levels according to the HC on the courses for some, based on their HC of - 30 / - 40, so that non-CSG players (CalculatorSystemsGamers) can rediscover the joy of playing and without legitimate frustrations, whether on the Match League, so as not to always find yourself face to face each session, in front of the same CSG Legend level, or on the GROUND.
Concerning the WRT, in order to bring together more non-CSG candidates, pass it in 30 seconds every other time, that way there would be a better attendance to play not only putter (the last 2 courses), just to receive the famous boxing . <<<
Why would you want to take 15 seconds away from players who want to analyze the green, who want to play the right percentages, who just want to hit a good shot? That is pure actionism. Some good things simply take time. By the way. Iām not a top player and Iām far from it, but Iām trying to get better, learn from my mistakes and Iām having fun doing it.
I would even go so far as to say that you donāt play better with a calculator in the long run, but rather worse, because you simply donāt learn to understand the game better that way. I played table tennis for a long time. The best racket is useless if you canāt master the technique.
Once again: Itās not because of any calculator that the top players achieve such good results.
They can simply do it much better than most.
1 Like
I donāt agree with you, the -40 is not far off! - 36 on Cadeiger this W-E shows it ā¦! Normal score lol
1 Like
what -40ā¦ on sosori -40 is possible if you know the tricksā¦ -36 on cadeigar is possible too, because its an easy courseā¦ omg
1 Like
I forgot something else. You also have to know when you should play with which spin, this dubious calculator canāt tell you that either. Anyway, he doesnāt know the green or the surrounding area.
Sry, i dont understand you, i am out.
Enjoy the game.
2 Likes
I get this trolling sensationā¦and my keyboard is running out of ink.
I am out too - have fun with game.
2 Likes
Hi, Iām agree those calculators (like ez shots) should be blocked by game guard or another feature especially for tournaments, wrt, sol and ml. Itās in SO rules thatās not suppose to be allow if you read those lines.
Iām shocked to see so much players defending this saying Oh yes, but you still have to calculate lies and all, itās not the point.
Vs a player donāt use this cheating feature, itās a big advantage and shouldnāt be used in tournaments.
Gl and please letās keep some respect in arguments
3 Likes
Hi,
the problem is that calculators are not detected by gameguard, so the arrogance of these cheaters will never stop.
They suddenly appear in world rankers, but we donāt have the right to find this a little bit strange.
I can also tell you that i used to meet theses players in Match League, that i often bit them, and suddenly itās no more possible to perform vs them .
Thereās no problem at all, they became just good between may and june with the sun, between thursday and friday with the arrival of week-end, between truth and lieā¦ and they just think we are rabbits of 6 weeks, us playing since 15 years too.
2 Likes
seems youāre mad youāve been playing for 15 years and still canāt obtain their scores
1 Like
I already answered twice (if not more times) why itās useless to annoy the whole community playing WRT for a test that 1) wonāt change who the top players are and 2) is already doable other ways if you really want to.
Read back and stop copy-pasting without reading the thread pleaseā¦
Alright alright
There are so many inventions or lies in your previous posts that Iām being forced to take them down piece by piece, and I will quote your own words:
-35/-45 or how to write two random numbers next to each other.
Nobody has ever played -45, not even close. Lowest score in history is -42, scores of -40 have been played by ~15 players worldwide on one single course (Sosori).
In general, anything beyond -36 (which is called the āperfect scoreā; best possible score without a HIO), is exceptional because it requires minimum one HIO, except on Sosori where HIOs are fairly easy, and Volcano would come as second easiest far behind.
Already commented about time.
āNo putter on the tee to see the greenā: it isnāt required to be able to play, some people do some donāt.
When itās our turn and we see what hole weāre on, we 1) already know where the green is 2) know what distance it is from the tee (itās displayed) and also where the hole is located 3) we already have a fairly good idea of how we want to play it. Thatās - to me at least - far enough info to never check greens from the tee with my putter, except on extremely long holes where Iām far from reaching in 1 and I wanna check the pin location.
Also explain us how it is relevant to your theory. First time Iāve heard that in 10+ years - so I guess itās your own theory, you must know better than anyone.
Enlighten us please.
ā0.2y / 1.5y from the hole on every shotā: are you sure bro ? Even on Sosori, I canāt do that I must be bad then, I only shot -42 once while people shoot -45 overnight, this must be the reasonā¦
Just for you, this is arguably one of the best rounds in Shot Online history, count how many approaches are within 2 yards even:
Source for this stat ? 
And even if this number was not abysmally exaggerated, the ones that are disgusted are disgusted on the base of all the false information and lies that have been spread out for a decade and that they believe are true. You are now included among those.
(about testing a calculator)
Thereās no way you want to see your own contradictions. Itās more comfortable to speak loud about something you donāt know how it works.
Translation without your CSG rant: āthey should separate the field and arrange matchmaking based on playersā overall performanceā.
Thatās precisely what a ranking / elo system does.
Thatās precisely what Match League implements, though it can be improved.
But, youād like to do it before the season even starts and using HC ?
Would I start every season as Legend 600 pts then ? so that youāre sure you never play against me ?
Enlighten us again please, this must be interesting.
Yes between -40 and -36 thereās only a difference of 4 HIOs, not far off.
Do you realise what youāre writing sometimes ?
Hello Rombinator,
you spend a lot of your time to argue that calculators and cheaters donāt exist, and i thank you for that, you are so kindly.
But iām absolutly not agree with you about the point you mentionned.
According to me, people are disgusted, because they saw the gameās transformation.
Everyone has the right to have his own opinion, there is no one truth and no one voice about the game.
If Milo tells you that people are disgusted about the cheaters itās because heās been playing since 15 years and that he spent a lot of time in game with many players, so he can speak with these players from the whole world.
Of course there is a minority of cheaters, but you canāt close your eyes about this phenomen.
You just answer in one direction, please listen to the players who are fed up with calculators.
We know much more that you can imagine, because we are talking with all the community.
So, il will ask you when you answer to people you are not agree with, please donāt tell them they are liers.
Thatās the worse way of communication.
We all know and we all accept that some players are very good, are better than us.
For my part i play match league each season, and i have the grade of platinum after the season all time since maybe 10 monthes.
So please believe me when i tell you the following thing : i saw players became excellent players between wednesday and friday, maybe they suddenly understood the game because the holy virgin came to them while they were sleeping.
We want to appease this topic and try to find a solution with this problem.
What do you say to range finders etc in real golf? Are those people cheating for using that when their eyes should be good enough? I dont get it, cheating is abusing code of shot online hitting and instant hio before ball even leaves tee. Thats cheating, using a glorified chart is not
1 Like
@Milo
Hey buddy, how many OT wins do you have? I guess 0-2ā¦
I also hear many people (who are in that 20-24 under par range) complaining that 30 seconds is too fast. Talk to your peers before making claims that your butt cannot cash. Iāve not played 1 hole of SO in probably a good 6 weeks, if you would like a 30 second match, letās do it. I am your C-list SO player and many can confirm 
I look forward to hearing from you pookie 
Edit by Admin: removed inappropriate language
The topic is really getting a bit, I donāt know how to say it, a bit heavy. The subject has disgusted me, I go in to play, I go in to have a good time, I donāt care if I win or lose, Iām only interested in enjoying myself and I donāt care what anyone else does.
I completely agree with you. But whatās going to happen to the game when all those who abandon it out of disgust have all abandoned it? Itāll be too late to ask the right questions. Today in the room-list, there are already only 2/3 pages left on server 2 ā¦
So what. The community will survive.
The topic is getting really annoying. The problem is, and I also have a problem with this, that you are generally accusing players here and canāt provide any evidence and that just doesnāt work. Check your own playing style. Try to improve yourself and youāll win against someone who uses such a miracle weapon. And if you lose, so what.
2 Likes
You say youāre tired of this Topic?
No one is forcing you to follow this Topic, which denounces certain practices.
Do you think the community will survive? Youāre entitled to think so ā¦ Rightly or wrongly.
Iāve got my own, and after all the private messages Iāve received, itās out of the question to abandon them! Yes, many members have been threatened with banishment on this subject in the past, and I understand their silence here.
Lastly, weād like to know what your main characterās name is in the game, so that things are clear for many people.
Reread my opening post, many members have done so, and thereās more to come,
youāll find the reasons for this legitimate fight.
Thank you for your posts, and for keeping this Topic alive ā¦
PS: 2/3 pages open in the room list in Match Mode complaints, you call that comforting for the near future?